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• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/01/24 (Mon) 06:46
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EV car charging at home is possible for homeowners
but what about people living in apartments?
If I modify or install my own parking space without the owner's permission,
I might have some problems if the owner says something.

• 寝てる間に全焼
• 2022/01/24 (Mon) 09:53
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Of course you can't do it without permission.
If the electrical contractor and the owner discuss it and agree that it is safe for fire, they will allow the installation.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/01/24 (Mon) 10:27
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Who will pay for its installation?

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• 2022/01/24 (Mon) 14:01
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It's too late now, but to answer the question in the first place, the electricity bill will probably go up （ all at once, although it's also trivially unclear ） whether it's all at once. However, if I let go of my Jeep, which gets around 30 mpg, the increase in the electric bill is less than the "gas I would have spent", so if I lump it in with the gas ＋ bill, the total cost will go down. （ If you only consider "electricity cost", I understand your concern, but ・ ・ ・ ）

How much it will increase depends on the daily driving distance and charging environment, and it is difficult to answer. A simple calculation shows that even with 480v Fast Charge outside, $ 0.50 per kW. （ This also depends on the contract $ 0.30s, and varies depending on the charging network ） This makes 3 ～ 4 miles per kW a reasonable line, so the electricity cost per mile is $ around 0.10 per gallon ＝. $ 4.50 per gallon of gas, which would be, well, close to 40 miles. Better than the Jeep, which is probably 30mpg currently, but not as good as the Prius. This is the worst case for external charging. If I could charge this at home on a line like 240v40A （ ） at night when electricity costs the least, it would probably be cheaper than the Prius. If the company has a charger or can get 110v, that would be great. Some places have free chargers in employee parking lots these days. Where are they? I'm not sure if I'm not well-spoken and raised and don't usually have a say or if the world doesn't listen, but I can't restrain myself from wanting to say something （ ） There are those at the microbial level who have already found bait and are running to capture it, but, well, there are some.

Power transmission would simply increase pressure or flow, but there are curious life forms who wonder naively what would happen if they stuck a hardware fork in a receptacle, so we need a duplicate poka-yoke. In contrast, though, as cars become more efficient, there will be less demand. Renewable energy will probably settle on nuclear power, which is a natural phenomenon that requires significant savings to provide for the masses' needs. Battery technology seems to be improving year by year, so it will gradually spread like solar power, but the electrification of many things is so fast that the Renewable infrastructure cannot keep up. Therefore, small nuclear reactors （ which are said to be even safer than the current ones ） are being developed.

Homes with electric dryers already have 240v （ ） and can extend the current from there. However, the current is low. Installation of a dedicated 240v
circuit is generally paid for by the user. In case of renters, they may be asked to remove it when they move out, as in the case of other modifications, but it depends on the contract and persuasion. （ Since there is absolutely a demand for ） recharging capacity, it may be possible to negotiate to split the cost by saying that the next person will be easier to find or that the rental period will be longer.

In case it depends on the electric company, you can rebate by installing a 240v line, buying or leasing a new EV, or buying a used car and rebating. And if it's a new car, there's also Tax Credit.

Fuel cells are an area where some manufacturers have ended development itself and the outlook is not good. However, Mirai offers fuel credit （ for 5 years ？ ） as I recall, so I think it might be a good value. I believe the VW ID4 also has a credit for electricity. There are also incentives by car and by manufacturer, so you might find some bargains if you look around. Hybrids （ especially the Prime type from Toyota ） should still be good for 10-15 years, even if new gasoline cars are banned for 35 years ？ or so （ I think they passed a bill ？ I think it was one of the governor's bs ？. ） and it doesn't mean they won't be able to maintain them. And if that's the case, used car sales will continue. In effect, they are selling "used" cars instead of "new" cars ？ as long as they have owner registration, they are in fact used cars. If even used cars were prohibited, the economy would collapse, and there would be no subsidies to buy EVs for everyone, but I can only speculate.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/01/24 (Mon) 17:38
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I wonder if we can find out who will pay for it.
It would be up to the owner of the apartment.