Vivinavi : Orange County : (United States) Orange

• Mirai
• 2021/04/18 (Sun) 20:48
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There are several reasons for the low used prices.

1 ． First generation Mirai design is tacky
2 ． First generation Mirai is a panda from the back
3 ． Maintenance costs are unknown and likely to be high for medium to long term ownership
4 ． Hydrogen gas Not cheap if you pay for it yourself （ about $80 per fill up, 300 miles of driving ）
5 ． inconvenient to refill with hydrogen （ few current stations etc ）
6 ． first generation Mirai design is weird

I don't recommend buying a new car for cosmetic reasons, the safest choice would be Camry, Prius or Accord.
If you want to save the most money, it will be cheaper to drive a 10 year old Japanese car with minimum repairs.
If you want to save the ultimate money, drive a car without power windows or air conditioning, so there are fewer parts to break.

I may have thought a little differently before Corona than I do now. But I realized. You never know when you will die in life. Will I work hard and be thrifty for the rest of my life?
It is not a bad idea to reward yourself once in a while ？
America is a car society. If you drive almost every day, why not drive a car that is good enough?
The new Mirai is environmentally friendly, equipped with the latest safety features, comfortable to drive, and quiet.
The design is also cool. The 0% interest rate is not ridiculous.

I predict that there are several reasons for the large discount.

1 ． Manufacturers are obligated to sell environmentally-promoting vehicles and are penalized if they do not sell a certain number. I heard that Tesla is profitable because it sells those credits to other companies. So Toyota may be selling at a reduced price to secure the credit even if it is not profitable.
2 ． For the time being, they are hoping for a publicity effect by offering a large discount （ In fact, thanks to the large discount, more than half of the cars are now sold before they are distributed to dealers on the way to import from Japan ）
3 ． They are hoping for publicity by running more cars in the city
4 ． Still few hydrogen stations
5 ． Toyota seriously planning to promote hydrogen cars

The big discount sale makes me think back to the Prius Prime in 2018. It debuted in '17, but awareness was low and dealers were still piling up inventory in April '18. So to clear out inventory, a $5,000 discount was initiated. Being a plug-in, there was a government incentive (4.5k + 1.5k) similar to Mirai, so a $30,000+ car could actually be bought for $20,000 including tax. After that, they became popular because they could afford to get over 50 miles to the gallon, and you can see many of them around town these days. At the same time, the big discount is gone. If I sold it now, I could sell it for about $20,000, which means I could drive the car for free for two and a half years.

Riding a Mirai may be like having a cute girlfriend, a handsome boyfriend, a brand new bag, or a rare pet. Because it is better than normal, it also requires a certain amount of extra care. Whether that is a good thing or not is left to individual judgment. Even those who drive Teslas may have their own concerns that they can't talk to others about ？

In case you are wondering, the Mirai is a kind of electric car. There is a small hydrogen power plant inside the car, which produces electric energy to power the motor. So it is very quiet. It doesn't have the power of a Tesla, but acceleration is not bad. It seems to have more than a normal 3 liter car.

You can also see the future expansion plans for hydrogen stations on the internet, and it looks like there are quite a few planned.
So I predict that they will not be reduced in the future. I think the cost of hydrogen will go down more than up as it becomes more prevalent. I don't think Toyota will do anything to eliminate stations until the end of the car's （ life ？ ） about 10 years, as a matter of social responsibility.

Normally, any new car you buy will lose about $3,000 in value in the first year. 5 ～ $6,000 in 3 years, I think.
I think the value after 2 years is not a problem, but after 3 years I expect it to be around $10,000 at worst. Still, I think it's not bad since the real purchase price is about $12,000. Worst case scenario, if the resale value gets worse, you might want to trade it in to Toyota.

Car, please email me and we can meet at the OC dealership later this evening or weekend.

• まだまだEVはダメ
• 2021/04/18 (Sun) 22:43
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The used price and leasable value of an electric car is quite low. After about 3 years, after all, the most expensive lithium battery, which is the main part of an electric car, will suffer a loss of power. After 5 years, an electric car is worth a bundle if you don't replace the battery.

• まだ
• 2021/04/18 (Sun) 23:15
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We've got 15 years ahead of us, so we'll be fine.

• 株主
• 2021/04/19 (Mon) 15:23
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Numerous car critics have decided to buy this new Mirai on the spot after test driving it.
The chassis and ride quality seem to be quite good.

I've driven a few Korean cars in rental cars, and they all have good specs and equipment, but they all ride poorly.
You can tell the moment you come around the first corner.

• Honda
• 2021/04/20 (Tue) 12:01
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I was driving a Honda hydrogen car. I decided that I would never drive a Honda again because Honda's service was so different from Toyota's. I was considering switching to the new Mirai, but gave up when I saw the price of the lease. The price of the car was about the same as the BMV 5 series, so I gave up because I thought the tax and insurance were very expensive and not suitable for my size. Hydrogen cars are almost never a problem in the Torrance area, as there are many stations nearby. I would recommend joining the owners club on Facebook, as the employees at each station post about any urgent maintenance or residuals, so be sure to join the group.

Please make sure to check the app to make sure you have enough left and are online before you head out to put in your hydrogen. Also, if you fill more than 3 cars in a row, the hydrogen pressure will drop and you will need to wait about 10 ～ 15 minutes for the pressure to increase. Please chat with other owners and wait patiently.

I am a renter and cannot afford an electric car, so the hydrogen car was very convenient. However, the hydrogen cost I spent after 3 years of driving it was less than $1000, so I think I will go back to a gasoline car next time, since a gasoline car is usually more cost-effective, even considering the various benefits. However, the feeling of an EV is so comfortable that you can't forget it once you drive it.